[arnieherber]

During the 1929 and 1930 season the Green Bay Packers wore a jersey that had their playing number on the front inside a circle. According to the book, Packer Legends and Facts, McNally can be seen in the group photo as wearing number 24. During the next four years (1931-1934) it looks like the team did not stitch numbers on their jerseys. I have an early Stiller photo showing McNally using number 27. The jersey he is wearing in this photo is that shown in the team photo (a number inside a circle) as depicted for 1929/1930 in Packer Legends and Facts. I know that during the early years players did not necesarily stick with the same number during the entire season. My question is: Did McNally primarily use number 24 or 27 during the early years of 1929/30?

[coach tj troup]

arnieherber, on 27 July 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

During the 1929 and 1930 season the Green Bay Packers wore a jersey that had their playing number on the front inside a circle. According to the book, Packer Legends and Facts, McNally can be seen in the group photo as wearing number 24. During the next four years (1931-1934) it looks like the team did not stitch numbers on their jerseys. I have an early Stiller photo showing McNally using number 27. The jersey he is wearing in this photo is that shown in the team photo (a number inside a circle) as depicted for 1929/1930 in Packer Legends and Facts. I know that during the early years players did not necesarily stick with the same number during the entire season. My question is: Did McNally primarily use number 24 or 27 during the early years of 1929/30?

....if possible contact mr. eric goska...he will know.

[rhickok1109]

arnieherber, on 27 July 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

During the 1929 and 1930 season the Green Bay Packers wore a jersey that had their playing number on the front inside a circle. According to the book, Packer Legends and Facts, McNally can be seen in the group photo as wearing number 24. During the next four years (1931-1934) it looks like the team did not stitch numbers on their jerseys. I have an early Stiller photo showing McNally using number 27. The jersey he is wearing in this photo is that shown in the team photo (a number inside a circle) as depicted for 1929/1930 in Packer Legends and Facts. I know that during the early years players did not necesarily stick with the same number during the entire season. My question is: Did McNally primarily use number 24 or 27 during the early years of 1929/30?

He wears 24 in his Hall of Fame portrait, if that means anything.

[ronfitch]

coach tj troup, on 27 July 2010 - 07:55 PM, said:

....if possible contact mr. eric goska...he will know.

"Packers By the Numbers" by John Maxymuk may have the answer (my copy is elsewhere, but I can check tonight unless someone else can before then). Maxymuk used a pretty extensive list of references, so I cannot image he did not consult Goska's works.

[Moran]

I have that same photo and had this conversation years ago with John Maxymuck - I have Packers' programs from all those seasons and McNally is never listed as 27 in any program I have.

[coach tj troup]

ronfitch, on 28 July 2010 - 10:03 AM, said:

"Packers By the Numbers" by John Maxymuk may have the answer (my copy is elsewhere, but I can check tonight unless someone else can before then). Maxymuk used a pretty extensive list of references, so I cannot image he did not consult Goska's works.

maxymuk's book "uniform numbers of the nfl" has been a constant source for me when I watch film, and is a viable source for all fans. the problem is ......have discovered at least 50 errors, probably closer to 100. so when there is a credibility situation; eric goska is above reproach, and maxymuk is not. did maxymuk use eric's book? if he did, then he is a wise man, if not?

[JuggernautJ]

For what its worth, The Pro Football Hall of Fame lists McNally's number as 24 under the "Jersey Numbers" list.
http://www.profootba...eys-number.aspx

Not # 27, although that is his number (as mentioned above) in his Hall photo.
http://www.profootba...px?PlayerId=149


In the Alphabetical listing of Jersey numbers Johnny Blood has no "preferred" number and is listed as having the following numbers: (10) , (14) , (15) , (20) , (24) , (55) , (57)
http://www.profootba...seys-alpha.aspx

[ronfitch]

coach tj troup, on 28 July 2010 - 04:21 PM, said:

maxymuk's book "uniform numbers of the nfl" has been a constant source for me when I watch film, and is a viable source for all fans. the problem is ......have discovered at least 50 errors, probably closer to 100. so when there is a credibility situation; eric goska is above reproach, and maxymuk is not. did maxymuk use eric's book? if he did, then he is a wise man, if not?

For "Packers by the Numbers" Maxymuk cites Goska's "Packer Legends in Facts: Your Most Accurate Source of Stats, Rosters, Team History and All Team Photos of the Green Bay Packers 1919-1995" among the seven-and-a-half page bibliography and even refers to it in the preface (seen here http://www.rci.rutge...e/packers.html) and mentions it again at the end of the bibliography titled "Author Awards: If I Were Giving Out Awards, These Are The Blue Ribbon Winners By Category In My Opinion" where he cites "Packer Legends in Facts" for the reference category winner.

That said, I cannot vouch and wouldn't try to vouch for the accuracy of his book. However, I will pass on the information he lists for McNally as a Packer:

season 1929 (24)
season 1930 (24)
season 1931 (20)
season 1932 (20)
season 1933 (14)
season 1935 (26)
season 1936 (55)

The photo he has of McNally in the book is the B&W photo in which McNally is wearing a jersey with the number 27 on it that JuggernautJ mentions in this thread. Interesting choice of photo to include in a book about Packers and the jersey numbers they wore while playing for the Packers.

In the chapter about McNally, I do like Maxymuk's passage:

"McNally graduated from high school at age 14 when he wrote in wrote in his yearbook, 'Dear God, how sweet it is in spring to be a boy' (Daley, 81). He would not finish college till he reached 46. In between, he played football."

[Eric Goska]

arnieherber, on 27 July 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

During the 1929 and 1930 season the Green Bay Packers wore a jersey that had their playing number on the front inside a circle. According to the book, Packer Legends and Facts, McNally can be seen in the group photo as wearing number 24. During the next four years (1931-1934) it looks like the team did not stitch numbers on their jerseys. I have an early Stiller photo showing McNally using number 27. The jersey he is wearing in this photo is that shown in the team photo (a number inside a circle) as depicted for 1929/1930 in Packer Legends and Facts. I know that during the early years players did not necesarily stick with the same number during the entire season. My question is: Did McNally primarily use number 24 or 27 during the early years of 1929/30?

Unfortunately, I do not know which number (24 or 27) Johnny Blood used primarily in 1929 and 1930. I had access to only a few programs pre-1935 and so I chose not to list jersey numbers for the years 1919-1934 in my book.

Eric Goska