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#1 smith03

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 01:20 PM

Did the Decatur Staleys field a team in 1919. I come across sources that state the team started in 1919 and others that state 1920

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 01:30 PM

Did the Decatur Staleys field a team in 1919. I come across sources that state the team started in 1919 and others that state 1920

Yes, the team was organized in 1919, joined the new APFA in 1920, moved to Chicago (still named the Staleys) in 1921, and became the Chicago Bears in 1922.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 01:57 PM

Yes, the team was organized in 1919, joined the new APFA in 1920, moved to Chicago (still named the Staleys) in 1921, and became the Chicago Bears in 1922.



thanks any idea as to how many games were played- record as independent in 1919? or are you suggesting the team was just organized in 19 and began play in 20?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 03:03 PM

The Staley football team was founded at a meeting of the plant welfare society on 19-Sep-1919.

The following 1919 Staley games are known to have been played:-

05-Oct-1919 at Peoria Tractors (L0-3)
12-Oct-1919 vs Stonington Independents (W50-3)
19-Oct-1919 vs Staunton Independents (W89-0)
02-Nov-1919 vs Champaign Independents (W32-0)
11-Nov-1919 at Taylorville Independents (W21-7)
16-Nov-1919 vs Chaunte Field Aviators (W61-0)
23-Nov-1919 vs Arcola Independents (W41-0)

Games against Danvers (19-Oct), Chanute Field (26-Oct), Carlinville (02-Nov) & Arcola (30-Nov) were cancelled.

A crowd of around 5,000 watched the Armistice Day game at Taylorville.

Jake Lanum was the top scorer, including 6tds against Staunton.

Charley Dressen was the Staleys QB.

Roy Adkins, Charley Dressen, Sid Gepford, Jake Lanum, Walt May, Jack Mintun & Walt Veach also played on the 1920 Staley team.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 03:21 PM

Did the Decatur Staleys field a team in 1919. I come across sources that state the team started in 1919 and others that state 1920


http://home.comcast.net/~esterneman/sternaman/football.htm

http://www.football-almanac.com/teams/Chicago_Bears.shtml

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 03:31 PM

http://home.comcast.net/~esterneman/sternaman/football.htm

http://www.football-almanac.com/teams/Chicago_Bears.shtml

http://www.profootballarchives.com/1919dec.html

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 04:55 PM

http://www.independe.../ill/ilchib.htm

also has information on the Staleys/Bears from the early days

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 05:08 PM

The Staley football team was founded at a meeting of the plant welfare society on 19-Sep-1919.

The following 1919 Staley games are known to have been played:-

05-Oct-1919 at Peoria Tractors (L0-3)
12-Oct-1919 vs Stonington Independents (W50-3)
19-Oct-1919 vs Staunton Independents (W89-0)
02-Nov-1919 vs Champaign Independents (W32-0)
11-Nov-1919 at Taylorville Independents (W21-7)
16-Nov-1919 vs Chaunte Field Aviators (W61-0)
23-Nov-1919 vs Arcola Independents (W41-0)

Games against Danvers (19-Oct), Chanute Field (26-Oct), Carlinville (02-Nov) & Arcola (30-Nov) were cancelled.

A crowd of around 5,000 watched the Armistice Day game at Taylorville.

Jake Lanum was the top scorer, including 6tds against Staunton.

Charley Dressen was the Staleys QB.

Roy Adkins, Charley Dressen, Sid Gepford, Jake Lanum, Walt May, Jack Mintun & Walt Veach also played on the 1920 Staley team.



You can really tell back in those days who put forth some real effort into their teams and who just scrounged up a few players.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:18 PM

Hello- I'm new to the forum and I am trying to find information about the early Staleys teams. I'm trying to get information prior to 1919, although it's proving quite difficult to come by. My great Grandfather played for the Staleys I believe for only a short while. All of the records I can find begin with 1920, and none of it reflects his name, nor have I found him included in any of the team photos. Years ago, I looked at a photo at my Grandparents' house in which my Great Grandfather stood in front of a building marked "Staley", alongside George Halas. My family has no idea what happened to this photo, and I've never seen it anywhere online or through any of my research. I assume this photo is from when they were still a company team. If anyone has or knows where to find information on these early Staley teams, I would appreciate it. My Great Grandfather's name was Harry 'Hap' Vaughan. He's pictured in my profile pic, and I believe that photo is from either a high school or city league team. Any info would be great. Thanks!

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 11:15 AM

The Staley football team was founded at a meeting of the plant welfare society on 19-Sep-1919.

The following 1919 Staley games are known to have been played:-

05-Oct-1919 at Peoria Tractors (L0-3)
12-Oct-1919 vs Stonington Independents (W50-3)
19-Oct-1919 vs Staunton Independents (W89-0)
02-Nov-1919 vs Champaign Independents (W32-0)
11-Nov-1919 at Taylorville Independents (W21-7)
16-Nov-1919 vs Chaunte Field Aviators (W61-0)
23-Nov-1919 vs Arcola Independents (W41-0)

Games against Danvers (19-Oct), Chanute Field (26-Oct), Carlinville (02-Nov) & Arcola (30-Nov) were cancelled.


Having grown up in Arcola, population has never exceeded 3,000, I first heard the story in the 70's about the Staley's "chickening out" of playing Arcola. Throughout the years, I'd picked up various details and always took it with a grain of salt. The more I've learned, the more merit the story has. It seems that Arcola did send a team to Staley Field on the 23rd November and was promptly trounced. Arcola requested a rematch scheduled for the 30th on Lyons Field in Arcola at 2:30 pm. Posters and tickets were printed, bets were placed, etc. The loss didn't set well with some businessmen in Arcola who decided to recruit some players for the rematch. A local conductor was enlisted to recruit college players (UofI, ND, Indiana and Purdue) for this game and they would be paid for their services. One local businessman (a ND alum) was pushing to get the "Gipper" who was apparently unavailable (illness possibly). The list of college stars included Dutch Sternaman, RB for Illinois, who if I'm not mistaken wound playing for the Staleys in 1920.

Gameday came and no show from the Staley's. Seems the manager had gotten word of the recruiting and decided to spare the players. According to a newspaper account at the time, Gene Staley was unaware of the cancellation till after the fact at which time he tried to schedule a special train and send the team to the game the next day but couldn't locate 4 of the players. The paper goes on to state that Staley later wrote a check to cover the expenses Arcola incurred in the recruitment.

This is the story that I have pieced together at this stage, but it is heavily biased from the Arcola side of the equations. Was hoping that someone out there would be able to add/correct any part of the story. I'm interested in finding out the true story of "The Game that was Never Played"

Of course most people know what happened the next season when Staley hired a bridge engineer away from the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad in Chicago, George Halas.